1. There is definitely a miscommunication here. First of all, it’s not 50,000 packages being supported but only the main repo, community repos are rarely if ever updated in LTS. Secondly, we mentioned that Snaps have issues and they do. Third, Ubuntu Flavors are not officially maintained by canonical. Yes they are sanctioned but they are still community driven projects. Fourth, we mentioned that it was a request made to the flavors and the flavors agreed. I stated that I felt it was unnecessary but also it’s not a big deal and ultimately this does not impact the user experience all that much for most flavors. Fifth, Ryan was making a joke about me convincing him to be mad about it. He’s not actually made and we laughed about that part to indicate it’s a joke. Finally, sure we have opinions and preferences and they will never make everyone happy but to call us too biased is laughable to me because we are essentially the one of only groups of people you’ll ever hear defending Canonical. We don’t agree with everything they do but we still appreciate all the work and effort they have made for the Linux ecosystem and we have made this clear on countless occasions.

  2. Give them some time. The pendulum swings with a known rhythm.

    Plus, it’s usually better to give the hosts a little grace as they are on a journey themselves. None of them express that they are the end-all experts. Even Jill, who has many accomplishments, rides the humble-wagon.

    As mortal beings, they are influenced by others (what they read, who they interact with, and what they watch) – and doing a weekly podcast sometimes results in “thinking out loud while on air.”

    However, there are times when it is good to hold their feet to the fire – by doing so you help them to improve and make better content for a better network. I’m reminded of a book I read once that said something like, “As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.”

  3. Really balanced answer here from the late night Linux team on Ubuntu’s take on Snap.

    I could not put it more diplomatically if I tried.
    Just to be clear, I think the Destination Linux crew are doing a great job.

    Some topics on Linux can get a bit heated, but we are all here because of the benefits that open source provides and the community spirit.

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