On this week’s episode of Destination Linux, the #1 video-centric Linux podcast on the planet. We’re going to talk about the subject of the best Unix Shell is it time to switch away from BASH? We have a new Kali Linux out with some surprising changes. A new games just dropped for Linux and it has a very dark premise. Later in the show we’ll give you our popular tips/tricks and software picks. Plus so much more, coming up right now on Destination Linux.

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Segment Index

  • 00:00 = Coming Up On Destination Linux
  • 00:54 = Intro
  • 01:32 = What Noah has been up to
  • 03:20 = What Michael has been up to
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  • 07:27 = Community Feedback: Advice for Identity Management (managing various security keys)
  • 12:16 = How To Send Us Community Feedback
  • 12:28 = News: Kali Linux 2020.3 – Switching to ZSH & News About Win-Kex
  • 15:59 = Security Advisory: Do Not Click Links Inside of Emails
  • 18:31 = Bitwarden – Open Source Password Manager ( https://bitwarden.com/dln )
  • 19:52 = Bash vs ZSH vs Fish – Which Shell Should You Use?
  • 35:35 = DLN Game Fest! – August 30th @ 4:00PM Eastern
  • 36:39 = Linxu Gaming: SpiritFarer
  • 39:04 = Tip of the Week: /etc
  • 41:25 = Software Spotlight: BUTT (Broadcast Using This Tool)
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  1. This is gonna sound kind of stupid but I switched to ZSH when Apple announced their intention to change. My guess is most people use the default shell and, whether we like it or not, a lot of developers use Macs. I wanted to be fluent in an environment that was going to become increasingly relevant. I’m staying with ZSH because without doing any extra work my command line workflow seems slightly better. It’s auto completion is better. Quirky cool plug-ins and themes are just a bonus.

  2. this is very interesting and a solid reason to give it a shot. I like it.

    I havent really given much a lot of testing so I need to really give it a shot to see what the fuss is about. I know what features ZSH and FISH both offer but I never really felt the need to try them . . . I guess it is finally time to do it. :slight_smile:

  3. Avatar for djvbmd djvbmd says:

    FISH for me, but I must admit I never have played with ZSH (but will give it a try now). I used BASH for ages, of course, but heard @kernellinux recommend FISH wholeheartedly at some point and gave it a shot… and have never looked back.

  4. Avatar for mowest mowest says:

    Today, I’m using bash on all of my Linux boxes. I have used Powershell on Linux and even wrote a Powershell script on Linux to convert all of my Google Docs (Really JSON files with links back to the Google Doc file on Gdrive) to LibreOffice docs. I haven’t used zsh or fish. I do run older hardware so resources can be an issue for me. I have run Powershell on my best box an i7 with 16GB, and it is not instantaneous when it starts up. Just enough to be noticeable when you are use to the instantaneous nature of a bash shell opening on your system. Running Powershell on a RPi 3 made the CLI painful to use.

    I don’t code or script other than the above mentioned Powershell script (made with lots of trial and error, help from the Powershell on Linux community, and copying and pasting after Google searches), and some bash scripts that are basically lists of bash commands in a file.

    For the non-coder the choice of shell probably wouldn’t make a huge difference. At that point you would mostly ignore the underlying programming language and some of the nice features of fish and zsh (especially with plugins) might make your day to day life better as you simply use the shell to execute commands. If you have tons of bash scripts that you have written to automate tasks and you use these scripts on a regular basis it would be a larger cost to switch to fish or powershell because you would have to rewrite all of those scripts in a different scripting language. If you already have invested in learning bash and know it well, there is little motivation to leave bash, and I believe there are a number of utilities that have been written that can add some of the functionality that is lacking in bash to bash. I know that my son uses something to speed up “cd” commands to different directories. There are rust alternatives to common UNIX commands that can add some “bling” to your bash command output.

    Because zsh is POSIX compliant and all of your bash scripts will run without issues, this would be a pretty easy transition for Linux users that are already proficient in bash scripting.

    I would be interested to hear if someone who is proficient in bash scripting has made the switch to fish because of its easy syntax and is glad they made that switch or made the switch to Powershell and found the object oriented style of scripting worth the switch.

  5. Is that the stool shirt being subliminally advertised!!! … I think its working. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::crazy_face:

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